Over the years, One Direction released a number of popular hits, including “What Makes You Beautiful,” “Steal My Girl” and “Story of My Life.” But in 2015 Malik announced his decision to leave the band, and Payne, Styles, Tomlinson and Horan began the group’s hiatus later that year.

The journey taught Payne a great deal about measuring success—which he said evolved from a “monetary thing” to “more about happiness and experiences”—and failure. 

“It’s taught me I think that perseverance will always prevail in that sense,” he told Glamour U.K. “Because it doesn’t always go exactly to plan. We were really lucky when we came up, we absolutely skyrocketed. And then, it’s been hard to follow that ever since.”

Still, as hard as it may be, Payne tries not to play the comparison game. “But you know, measuring a failure as well. What is a failure?” he continued. “And people will look at this and, for us sometimes getting a 100,000,000 streams isn’t quite what we aim for, but it’s still 100,000,000 streams….you have to kind of get a hold of yourself. Everything is about perspective at the end of the day, isn’t it? That was something I struggled with for a long time, because of how well it went [for the band.]”